Holy crap! Magknits, the web knitting magazine I felt was second only to Knitty, has abruptly gone belly-up. I had knit a few patterns from there, including Odessa (a beaded swirly hat), the Ballet Camisole (a simple cotton camisole with a sweetheart neckline), and the Fake Isle hat (Fair Isle with Noro Kureyon as one of the colors), and I would check religiously on the first of each month for the new issue. They published some really great patterns, including some great multidirectional or bias-knit scarves, the Jaywalker chevron-patterned socks, a entrelac mistake-rib baby blanket named Bliss… a lot of stuff, really. Too many good patterns to name.
It all seems pretty abrupt. I had no inkling there was any problem until a few days ago, when I noticed a couple of threads on one of the main Ravelry boards about issues with Hipknits (the owner, Kerrie, runs a yarn business named Hipknits, and a print magazine named Yarn Forward)–I was kind of shocked. People were coming out of the woodwork saying Kerrie had scammed them out of money from their Hipknits orders, saying Hipknits yarn they had ordered was full of knots or shredded to pieces, or saying they never got paid for their Magknits submissions; one person said she was never notified her design had even been accepted to Magknits until it showed up on the front cover.
General internet witch-huntery and dogpiling ensued, including people who had never bought from Hipknits writing to Kerrie to complain about her business practices and and call her a bad mother (?!).
Presumably as a reaction to the flaming, Magknits was suddenly taken down today, with no advance notice. I’ve saved a few patterns to my hard drive from the Wayback Machine and Google cache, but sometimes (like with the Fake Isle hat) there are chart graphics that didn’t get cached and I guess I’m just SOL there. (Edited to add: The designer of the Fake Isle has already put up the pattern on her own site!)
It sounds like some things will get put up by designers as free Ravelry downloads, but this apparently came as a surprise to the designers as well as to readers, and I don’t think all of the designers are on Ravelry in any case.
I’m sad about this. Not having ever ordered from her, I can’t speak to Kerrie’s reliability or how legitimate her customers’ complaints were, but I had always had a pretty good impression of her and of Magknits, and I think Magknits’ disappearance strikes a major blow to the online knitting community. I did have a subscription to Yarn Forward, and had to write to get one issue re-sent because it never showed up, but they responded to my request quickly.
I’ve seen a lot of hysterical threads on Ravelry lately accusing various indie designers or retailers of scamming them, and I hope people stop and think for a minute before getting all crazy and paranoid and calling names. Posting in a constructive way about a legitimate complaint you’ve already tried to resolve privately is one thing, writing “SO AND SO IS A SCAMMING SNEAK THIEF” with little forethought in one of the main Ravelry boards is another.
There was a huge, crazy, drama-filled train wreck of a thread on Ravelry involving an indie dyer in New Mexico running a business called Mystical Creation Yarns–tons of people did get scammed out of money from buying this woman’s products, and she allegedly faked her own death in order to try to get out of her business obligations! Some more info is on this blog. I think that may have set a certain precedent, and now, if anything goes wrong in the slightest in a transaction, people automatically assume that other people really are out to cheat them out of their money. However, I think MCY was an exception, and most retailers are honest people out to get your goodwill and repeat business rather than make a quick buck off selling you cut-rate yarn. Seriously, people. Benefit of the doubt.




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April 8, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Sara
yeah, at first i thought it was no great loss as i usually don’t care for the patterns upon first seeing them, but a perusal in ravelry turned up several patterns that i would’ve liked to someday knit. thank heavens for the wayback machine, but in any case the whole affair is rather sad.
April 8, 2008 at 4:16 pm
genuinelye
Yah, very weird, complicated situation. I blogged the whole thing, and I’m just lucky that the sweater I’m knitting is going to be reposted by the designer…thank goodness!
April 8, 2008 at 7:05 pm
gleek
let’s hope the designers can republish their designs through ravelry! it’s sad to see magknits go. i did end up liking at least one thing from every issue.
April 8, 2008 at 7:54 pm
Teopea
Wow, this had all passed me by entirely until I read this. How… odd.
April 8, 2008 at 9:17 pm
sharon
Wow, that comes as a shock to me too.
April 8, 2008 at 9:47 pm
desiknitter
I learned about the whole thing by accident on Ravelry today. I usually avoid the general forums, because they’re full of the witch-huntery you talked about - I mean, how many threads will you have about LYS owners who were rude to you? It’s very tiresome after a point. Not knowing anything about Kerrie or Hipknits, it’s tough to say what happened, but it certainly seems to have created a bust up, no? I find the whole slash-dot/Harlotted effect quite bizarre too, the way some indie dyer the Harlot discusses is then suddenly flooded with orders by thousands of people. Isn’t there enough yarn and variety to go around?
I made the Odessa too, and I liked Magknits, it was more low-key, somehow, than Knitty. But I hope no designer got cheated out of their payment!
April 8, 2008 at 9:59 pm
Kalani
I saw the HipKnits thread on Ravelry a month ago or so and just assumed it was someone with a bit of excess black bile venting. I guess it’s odd to see the
“real world” intrude on knitting. I’ve always assumed that businesses in the knitting world will act like professionals and so will the consumers, even though that’s not how it works in many other industries.
April 9, 2008 at 9:07 am
kinimond
I was one of the burned customers. I didn’t participate in any of the current threads but I did bring my complaint to a board on Ravelry a month or two ago.
It was not something I did lightly - but having been unable to get any sort of response from Kerrie for months with three outstanding orders (which had become at least 5 parcels due to resends on her end) to a total of app £60 I felt I had no other choice.
What I have noticed is that most of the unhappy customers have been quite understanding about her workload and so on. The issue has mainly been the lack of communication.
I agree that the tone has not been the best on the boards, but the impression I got was that the people who were the most vocally aggressive either had no firsthand knowledge of the situation or were in fact getting belligent (sp?) over the fact that people were complaining in the first place. Which seemed sort of ironic.
April 9, 2008 at 11:28 am
chemgrrl
Yeah, I saw all those threads on Ravelry too. Sigh. That’s really why I don’t have much to do with Ravelry threads…
April 9, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Macoco
It gave me such a headache to read even a small portion of those threads. I feel bad for everyone involved (designers, Kerry, people who are still waiting for refunds/orders). It’s a pretty sad situation overall. But reading what I did helped reaffirm why don’t read the threads - emotions run high in there and it effects me in a bad way, I get completely drained over something that I have no involvement with.
April 15, 2008 at 9:29 am
knittyk8
I got sucked into reading some of the Hipknits/Magknits threads. And while I’ve never ordered from Hipknits and haven’t knit much from Magknits, the threads on Ravelry blew my mind. It seemed like some of the initial complaints were brought up in a “am I the only one? should I be worried?” frame and suddenly people who hadn’t even ordered yarn from Kerrie were chiming in on what an awful business owner she was. It reminded me of a thread last year where someone had threatened to post on Ravelry if they didn’t get what they wanted (whether it was a yarn order or a replacement or what - I don’t remember) I do appreciate I can research businesses on Ravelry, but that thread was taking it too far.
I have mixed feeling about the disappearance of MagKnits. On the one hand, it’s a free magazine and she’s not getting anything from it (but grief), so it’s up to her to decide whether or not to maintain it. But to take it down solely because of some very vocal posters, without notifying the designers much beforehand, was, well, sort a surprise. But not hard to understand.
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